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Re: ECU Tuning
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Theres alot of tech heads on this site. I mean that with the utmost of respect.
How come no one has considered a Mega squirt. Fully tunable....

http://megasquirt.info/products/pro-controllers/ms3-pro/

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #16 on: »
Wow, I just had  a flashback to when I started asking about this some years ago when I was new to MT01.
And, just like then, the old hands said had all been done and just do this.
Of course I had my own view.
And indeed, then, just as now, some of the old sage advice was indeed wrong.
And I was wrong too of course, on many things.
The idea that a black box will make it a fire breather is just as tempting then as now. And still wrong.
Anyway, sorry, lets fast forward and here it goes again.
Lets say something that was very clear on the old forum towards the end.
There is no magic box.
You can get little changes that give a bit more but unless you do expensive and major engine upgrades there is little to be had.
A stage 2 equivalent ecu flash is as much as a standard engine can use. A stage 3 in a standard engine bike is so rich running it feels like a slug.
Even when you do do all the engine mods, or some of them, the result is great, no doubt, but if you think its the fastest most powerful thing around you are wrong and for the amount of money you spend the return is minimal.
Use that air temp cheat if you want but its a false way to do it. The 02 optimiser can be bought from Power commander or comes included in a PCv for MT01. That is all the black magic there is. Go the T4micha stage 2 ecu upgrade or whatever he recommends will give about the good result but you dont have to do the 02 eliminator thing because any of the "stage" ecu's do not use the 02 sensor and are open loop.
Confused, good, nothing has changed then.
The bikes still great though!
 
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Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #17 on: »
Well, Rocker's Booster Plug is on its way here. I will install it and I will tell you what I think.
Mine is a 05 which probably needs it the least, the newer models I believe were built to more stringent emissions regulations.
Anyway, it will be interesting.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #18 on: »
The Booster Plug is now installed and a test ride has been done.
I think it does what it is advertised to do.
It is not a dramatic change, but the roll-ons are stronger and it does pull a little bit smoother than before.
In all fairness, I do not think a RP12 really needs it. I will definitely keep it though.
It would be interesting to see what it would do to a RP18.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #19 on: »
I dont know if the Mega Squirt would work, I only reference it as an easier way to tune it....as it has alot of possible parameters.... With the ecus locked, to me, it seems logical..YMMV




Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #20 on: »
Just to make it clear, the Booster Plug is not so much about increasing power but increasing rideability, making it smoother and without surging etc which seems to beset many newer bikes.
If you really want to increase power, you need to modify the engine hardware.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #21 on: »
Hi Danmt, Can you measure the resistor value?  And do you know it's position in the circuit? is it just in series with the temp sensor?


Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #22 on: »
I have  a Booster Plug installed for 2 years now on a stock bike with K&N filter and I can tell you that it works great ! Stronger idle , more low rev grunt and smoother engine noise .... It doesn't eliminate fuel cut-off completely , but I can only feel it going downhill (sometimes).  :D

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #23 on: »
Hi Danmt, Can you measure the resistor value?  And do you know it's position in the circuit? is it just in series with the temp sensor?

Sorry, I am an electronic anafabet. The original temp probe is completely disconnected, that much I can see.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #24 on: »
Hi Danmt, Can you measure the resistor value?  And do you know it's position in the circuit? is it just in series with the temp sensor?
I'm no expert either but think the resistor value will be variable depending on ambient temperature as the booster plug has it's own temperature sensor :)

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #25 on: »
Seems the Booster Plug lowers the fuel consumption slightly, last fill up gave almost exactly 5 liters in 100 km. I have never seen that before, it has always been 5.5-5.6 or thereabouts. Or more too.
I guess maybe you do not open the throttle quite as much as before to get the accelleration you expect.
We'll see how it works out in the coming months. Interesting anyway.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #26 on: »
BP works for my BM R1200GS LC. These things have a bad flat spot off idle and surge on take off from the lights and the BP fixed this no question. Over the BM sites there is endless discussions on whether they work or not with many saying even on open loop the ECU have adaptive parameters that will change over time to over ride the effects of the BP. All to high tech for me ... I only know it works for the me. For the MT01 ... mines a 2010 SP model with Staintune pipes and I find the fuelling is perfect as stock. Cheers Steve

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #27 on: »
I think the name Booster Plug is misleading and it should be called the Smoother Running Plug as this is what it does, as has said before in this thread it will NOT turn your MT 01 into a fire breathing monster.
If you want more power you'll need very deep pockets and patience to source super rare parts (still minimal gains) so it's turbo or supercharger £5000 a pop.
Need for speed? advice is buy a fast bike.

Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #28 on: »
Charm of the MT is that you have all it's power always ready, no downshifting, no super-revving.
Just twist the throttle. It's beautiful.
Even if there are faster bikes.
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Re: ECU Tuning
« Reply #29 on: »
Maybe, just maybe the BP takes away som vibration at higher revs. I now find myself doing 130 on the motorway where I was reluctant to go faster than 110 before.
Very difficult to prove this effect, but my hands are vibration sensitive after all years of riding and the difference is noticable.
(All in km/h, I'm not a madman)